Wednesday, May 30, 2007

Dera Sacha Sauda

Rishi was asking me in the shout-box to explain something about Dera Sacha Sauda. Here I go.

It is a spiritual organization based in Sirsa (Haryana) since 1948. Its followers call their guru as ‘Master’. It had three Masters so far, the present being the third. The first one was Shehanshah Mastana Ji Maharaj, who led them till his death on April 18, 1960. The second one was Param Pita Shah Satnam Singh Ji Maharaj, who led them till September 23, 1990 when he passed on the leadership to the present Master Sant Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh Ji.

Its website says that the meaning of Sacha Sauda is to truly meditate the name of the Allah, Ram, God without interfering in anyone’s religion or caste.

Courting controversy for the present Master, appears to be not new. In 2002, he was in the eye of a controversy when the editor of a local daily “Poora Sach” was found murdered with bullet injuries. That editor was writing negatively about the goings on on in the Dera. At around the same time, there were reports of sexual exploitation of of some women followers. Though nothing (as usual) remained in public memory, the present controversy arose because some posters appeared showing Ram Rahim Singh dressed up as the 10th Sikh Guru, Guru Gobind Singh. That is when the Sikhs (especially the SGPC – Shirmani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee, which overseas the Sikhs’ religious affairs) got wild and started protests. Initially the demands were to tender an apology to the Sikh community for denigrating them. Then the demand was upgraded to giving an apology in writing. The Master is reported to have tendered an apology to the Sikh Guru in writing and handed over the letter to the SGPC. But the SGPC appears to be still not satisfied. The apex Singh Sahibs (Clerics) of the Sikh community have rejected this apology and warned the Master against imitating the practices of any faith across the globe. They said they would continue their struggle against the Dera Chief.

17 comments:

Jasjit Singh said...

I found an interesting blog.

http://abhishekahuja.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/05/a-day-at-dera-sacha-sauda-sirsa-haryana.htm

Jasjit Singh said...

Here is the link to the blog I was referring to:

http://abhishekahuja.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/05/a-day-at-dera-sacha-sauda-sirsa-haryana.htm

Anonymous said...

And ram rahim ordered his followers to kill newspaper editor and another dera follower ranjit singh. Definitely not a character of a pure saint.



And ram rahim will never admit his wrong doings because he is afraid of sentences.

A true ram rahim will normally admit the truth in advance without sacrificing thousands of innocent lives.



Dera chief and his close corrupt congress relatives Jassi involved in Ludhiana scam now own all the dera properties. In future there will be a dera scam too.



God is punishing dera chief because of his wrong doings. His negative publicity and his every day to day his action watched and punished by god as you can see. CBI is after him, Sikh community all over the world is now against him and looking for justice. It is all because god wants to put him into these kind of circumstances. Can't you see?

Dera chief is with the charges of rapes, sexual molestation, killing innocent people and is a cold blood murder.



Dera followers are nice people but they are unable to see God's punishment. I would like to advice all the sisters and brothers in dera to come out and seek for truth. Look at some of the statements made recently openly by of the dera representatives i.e. a given day in media they will say we have 2.5 crore followers, next day 1.5 crore. Why they are lying openly for such a small thing? Who cares if dera has 20 billion followers or 2 followers? Point is about representing the truth and the true statements in media. It's a small example but there are millions out there. Just don't lie please. When you lie or exhaustrate then you are not following the path of truth, god.



Because when ram rahim and his followers will admit the truth deep in his/their heart then everything will become fine.

Anonymous said...

it seems that blog mentioned by jasjeet singh is made by himself. i might be wrong but he doesn't know the truth.

so called saint is not a true saint what he is doing is copy and paste job. he uses gurbani of sikhs holy scripture and kabeer ji's dohe. he is just distorting other's bani. i enjoyed fun by rerading "krishme" of dera gurus. safed jhooth
if he is a saint then y he lives a luxury life? y he spent crores of rupees on his daughter's marriage? y he sent his son and son-in-law abroad?y he accepts poor people's seva in free when he earns from their free seva? there are several questions I can ask but ......kya fayda?

rubal said...

If u ve any doubt about dera, ur most welcome, its a open book to all, any time u can come here and can see with ur open eyes.Guru Ji never calls to people to come here and do free sewa. ask from those people who come here ,why they come what they get,A blind man has no judge of colors.And innocent hve nothing to fear,

param said...

Dera is nowhere wrong ,these are some people who are blaming to dera for their selfishness. Here everyone is taught to love each other without any selfishness. Neither dera chief nor dera followers afraid from anybody ,they are just quite because they dont want violence as the rivals are creating against us.
but the strange is here that the people cant see the truth with their naked eyes.

param said...

Dera is a holy place where everyone is taught about truth.Like in a class there are many students studing together , some of them gets merit and some fails , but u cant blame to teacher for failures , same as our guru ji teach us not to do evilism but if then also some do wrong work then why to blame to guru ji.

Anonymous said...

anybody who uses violence in the name of religion is a criminal. be it from dera, sgpc,rajneesh cult, puttapurthi cult etc.

gary said...

hi

g08 said...

someone who cant fight himself i mean against his bad thought then he choose the sword for hiding his his bad deeds,all the people belong to sikh community r chicken hearted,what guru gobind singh ji teach us SACH KAHO SUN LEHO SABE JIN PREM KIO TIN HI PRAB PAIO or JIN PREM KHHELAN KA CHAO SIR DHAR TALI GALI MORI AAO IS MARG PER DHARIJE SIR DHIJE KAN NA KIJE which path he chose for us the path of love so that we can absorb in love coz love is god and god is love,can anyone explain 4 me where he gave the lesson of fighting 4 us please reply

g08 said...

since the begining of the creation god s messenger coming time to time,there is not even single moment when earth is empty from saint,according to holy gurbani saint s genration getting forward.can someone tell me the name of one person who met god without saint guru,i never find in holy gurbani that there is no more saint coming on the earth i just found NAAM RAHIO SAADU RAHIO RAHIO GURU GOBIND KAHE NANAK IS JAGAT MEIN JIN JAPIO GURUMANT

gary said...

why sikh people saying that dera is organization of poor category?first of all holy gurbani never say that someone who doesnt have worldly money he is the poor.who is poorest one accroding to pavitar gurbani NANAK NIRDHAN SOI JA HIRDE NAAM NA HOI someone who is deprive from the treasure of Naam he is poor.which treasure dera premis got from true pita ji sikh people cant even think about that.people who r Amrit Dhari since long time they must think,have they seen their real home in their body if not then why they dnt trust holy gurbani that need to find perfect saint,saadu or mater whose Naam is able to make your soul that much clean and powerful that you can see ur father param pita everywhere

gary said...

i am not talking about that kind of people who just having fun but in real they have no experience about spirituality.why sikh people ignoring the story of Bhai Bela who was follower of pita shri guru gobind singh ji.Bhai Bela was very simple and illitrate guru ji ordered to other followers that need to give the education to rest of sikhs so that they would be able to read holy gurbani coz how we understand without reading.Bhai Bela said to guru ji i want to learn from you then guru ji gave him asignment everyday,one day guru was ready to go smwhere and Bhai Bela requested to give the assignment then guru said "BHAI BALA VAKHAT DEKHE NA BALA" he thought this is his assignment so he kept on repeating BHAI BALA VAKHAT DEKHE NA BALA and he felt enjoyment of spirituality but rest of sikhs thinking that he got mad.when guru came back he saw that bhai bela repting smthing guru asked him what he doing than he said i remberbed that lesson u gave to me,guru became very happy and hug him and blessing him that be happy forever but rest of followers feeling jealous why guru ji so close to him even if he was just new there.guru ji ordered to make some Bhang (intoxication)ready when its ready then guru ji brought all the sikhs there and said put one sip of Bhang in ur mouth then rinse out except bhai bela bela,when this job finish then guru asked all of them except bhai bela,did anyone feel intoxication,all of them they didnt feel intoxicaion.then guru ji called bhai bela and ordered him to drink one sip of Bhang then ask same question to him,bhai bela was very happy and he said he felt intoxicated.then guru ji told them the reason why bhai bela intoxicated coz he drank Bhang and all of you just rinse out.That s what today s sikh doing just rinse out it means they just kept on reading and bow in front of holy gurbani but they dnt try to understand where holy gurbani s arrow goes then how they feel intoxicated ,i claim that noone can open the treasure of spirituality without perfect master ANHAD BANI PUNJI SANTAN HATH RAKHI KUNJI if someone really keen to open the treasure of that bani which has no limit then he has to take the key from true master or pita ji.every single word of holy gurbani is true but its hard to understand without a perfect master BRAHAMGIANI KI GAT BRAHAMGIANI HI JANE

Faith Broken said...

How to kill Pitaji

Dhan Dhan Satguru Tera Hee Asra
First of all it is not recommended. If he or many others are befooling people on the name of god then it is their smartness or some people just want it. People need god and it is their weekness. People has been befooled on the name of god many times in the history. Someone somewhere always will find out a way to make use of this weekness or need of people. If you don't like this you should try to educate people and explain them how these god looters are making use of your need and weekness. If any honest political leader is reading this then he/she should pursue govt to make law against this kind of abuse. Interests of religious people should be protected by govt. Any spirual leader or his/her family of should be banned from using reliogious organisations property or influence in any manner. Political leaders should be banned to visit or help or ask for help from religious places.
If your religious sentiments has been abused and you have decided to take actions then i have few ideas.
1.) Kill him by preying to almighty god. Your preys won't go unanswered. Prey to Satnam Ji maharaj for justice, justice will be served.
2.) Kill him by Time. time kills everybody. Let him enjoy Ravan style life and then let Kaal take care of him.
3.) Kill him by Evil. Evil kills evil. There is a lot of evil in this world. Some evil will eliminate this evil.

singh said...

hi

singh said...

everyone got weak point but few of them recognise their weakness and make effort to take that weak point away and rest of the people try to enlight others but themselves standing in the dark,schlor and smarter cant even learn the alphabet of spiritualism,according to holy gurbani schlor r completly fool

singh said...

@when shri guru nanak dev ji came in this world that time noone recognised him,people called him kurihia(person of misguide the socity)and when he gone then people chose him as a guide,same story about kabir ji,shri guru gobind sing ji ,jesus christ,mohamdan plenty of other saints.